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- From: rooster@tcp.co.uk (rooster)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Expanding my Amiga ?
- Date: 29 Mar 1996 01:05:37 GMT
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- Tf50the BUS 1200 Z1 and Z2
- at ú169 and ú199 respectively.Could I buy one of those and add 24bit
- cards to my Amiga or do I HAVE to buy the full system.I don't know if
- it is just me but I feel that the price for the full system is way too
- high(ú680 for the lowest priced full system:Tower case,5 Zorro II
- slots,3 PC-ISA slots,170mb hdd and unspecified s/ware).I also need to
- be able to still use my GVP 1230-II as buying a new card for the new
- slots would cost even more.If users are forced to buy a whole system
- and a new processor card we are talking around ú1900(ú400 for A1200,
- ú700 for tower and slots etc,ú300 for 24bit card,ú500 for 040+4mb).
- This does not sound too good does it?No wonder PC's are dominating the
- scene if they can chuck out a Pentium for less than ú1000(And no one
- come back at me with the 'Yes but you have to fork out lots of cash to
- upgrade etc.' because you have to fork out loads to upgrade the Amiga
- as well AND the PC has tons of quality software and more is being
- written.).Don't get me wrong I love the Amiga but sometimes it just
- does not seem reasonable to compare it to PC's etc because they have
- more options in software and hardware usually at a lower price(well
- hardware anyway).Also I feel a bit embarassed when I see posts about
- Amiga vs PC games.IMHO Doom has no equal on the Amiga.Doom has full
- screen gfx,lorry-loads of atmosphere,fast on most 486(I was hooked on
- my friends 25mhz 486).The Amiga clones usually equal it in one respect
- at a time(e.g.Gloom has out and out gun frenzy,Fears has a lot of
- atmosphere due to the sounds of machinery in distance etc,AB3D has
- good gameplay,AB3DII has technically brilliant new features) but not
- one of them has all the qualities in one game.
- AB3D II I think has been very much overrated by Amiga freaks
- wanting to bloody the PC's nose.Yes I enjoyed playing the demo but I
- spent hard cash on my GVP1230 but even that does not seem to give
- me the power to play the games I want to(e.g. SimCity 2000 was slow
- as f*ck,AB3DII in full screen was slow as f*ck,there are no t-mapped
- flight/combat sims,where is a Command and Conquer clone?Beat-em-ups-
- they consist of 2 characters on a background so why are they all so
- crap on the Amiga I have seen better on my friends 8-bit PC Engine,
- graphic adventures-hi res would be nice<does FOTAQ have hi res?I hope
- so.>)
- The Amiga really does need some piece of hardware to free
- it from the present limitations such as a 1200 gfx card to allow
- v. fast gfx speeds.I know this won't be free but I do object paying
- for a whole tower system and new processor card to fit a gfx card.Just
- imagine if an inexpensive solution appeared then we could use
- Shape-Shifter and all have MACs as well(Let's face it there seems to
- be more software coming out for the MAC then Amiga these days)Wankers
- like me could also emulate PC's to play Doom,Hexen,TFX and so on.
- Please believe me when I say I love the Amiga.I have been
- using them since the 500 appeared(apparently I had the first one in
- Southampton)and I think they are beautiful machines but I am now
- starting to think that they have had their day.Even this new Walker
- box will not save it I think.I believe a new machine should have had
- an even faster cpu and no reliance on AGA(too slow) and a chunky
- screen.
- Someone save the Amiga and bring us a gfx card without a
- prohibitively high cost.This would allow fantastic games and fast gfx
- to woo potential customers (I don't think anyone would buy an Amiga on
- the strength of AB3D I or II compared to say Duke Nukem 3d on the PC).
- Sorry to be such a downer.No one will be sadder than me to see
- the Amiga die so someone do something.Take up the Mat Bettinson
- challenge in last months CU Amiga and card my Amiga up good and proper
- otherwise in the future we will be obliged to use PCs as they will be
- the only system available.
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- Andy O'Dowd (rooster)
- p.s. Fabio Bizetti I am counting on you.Ever since I read that info
- file in the VK demo I have hoped that you can pull off all these
- plans you hinted at.The core machine you should be aiming to get
- Pentium-type game performance out of is A1200+030.Give us 256 colours
- at 25+fps in hi-res and we shall venerate as a God.
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